My counterpoint to your counterpoint:
Quote from: snake on June 15, 2008, 10:49:48 AMMy counterpoint to your counterpoint:I fail to see how we're in disagreement.
Quote from: Morgan Buchanan on June 15, 2008, 08:37:28 AMMy counterpoints...Myth 1: Other Drivers Don't Care About Motorcyclists They of course aren't TRYING to kill us, but because our existence matters so LITTLE to their convenience, it come out to the same thing in the end.... careLESS (not careFREE) drivers run over folks on motorcycles.My counterpoint to your counterpoint:Careless drivers run over anything that gets in the way! It's not so much that we matter little to them, if they will pull out in front of a speeding pickup or semi because they "didn't see it", they sure won't have noticed us. The myth is just that. We have to realize what blind spots are present in the minds of a reckless driver that is not only oblivious to us, but to tractor trailers, trains, m/c's, etc. They are just not aware, period. Granted, Morgan, there is the odd case, to be sure, where a car pulling out onto the main road will "see" the motorcycle and will pull out anyway, thinking the motorcycle will do everything not to hit them, and they might not have done it had they seen a large vehicle approaching at the same rate of speed. I think this to be the extremely rare case though. But, as Crew says...opinions vary!
My counterpoints...Myth 1: Other Drivers Don't Care About Motorcyclists They of course aren't TRYING to kill us, but because our existence matters so LITTLE to their convenience, it come out to the same thing in the end.... careLESS (not careFREE) drivers run over folks on motorcycles.
Yeah zoomie, but what happens when someone opens a door in front of you? Assuming the traffic is at a stop at the moment, that is. I alwys wondered how that fits into lane splitting.
Quote from: snake on June 15, 2008, 11:16:49 AMYeah zoomie, but what happens when someone opens a door in front of you? Assuming the traffic is at a stop at the moment, that is. I alwys wondered how that fits into lane splitting.I had a truck driver open a door on me while I was on a Honda CB 350. I laid it down and rode it until it stopped. The driver was upset because I was riding between cars stopped for traffic and had decided to teach me a lesson.I'll split 'em if I've got to, if not I'll sit it out like the others.
Quote from: hobo on June 16, 2008, 07:20:57 PMQuote from: snake on June 15, 2008, 11:16:49 AMYeah zoomie, but what happens when someone opens a door in front of you? Assuming the traffic is at a stop at the moment, that is. I alwys wondered how that fits into lane splitting.I had a truck driver open a door on me while I was on a Honda CB 350. I laid it down and rode it until it stopped. The driver was upset because I was riding between cars stopped for traffic and had decided to teach me a lesson.I'll split 'em if I've got to, if not I'll sit it out like the others.Just curious, did you leave this a$$ among the living
Quote from: bgreer on June 16, 2008, 10:05:09 PMQuote from: hobo on June 16, 2008, 07:20:57 PMQuote from: snake on June 15, 2008, 11:16:49 AMYeah zoomie, but what happens when someone opens a door in front of you? Assuming the traffic is at a stop at the moment, that is. I alwys wondered how that fits into lane splitting.I had a truck driver open a door on me while I was on a Honda CB 350. I laid it down and rode it until it stopped. The driver was upset because I was riding between cars stopped for traffic and had decided to teach me a lesson.I'll split 'em if I've got to, if not I'll sit it out like the others.Just curious, did you leave this a$$ among the livingDidn't want to. Didn't plan on it. I got off the bike and was going over to "speak" with him when I noticed he was holding a "cheater bar". Being armed with only my temper and a lit cigarette, I decided it might be best to retreat,...this time.
