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Upcoming Rally's => BBT Archives => Bluebonnet Thunder 2020 XVII => Bluebonnet Thunder 2009 Archive => Topic started by: hookem on April 27, 2009, 10:35:21 AM
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Figured now was as good a time as any, with BBT being fresh on everyone's mind. I thought this might help the board and the returning riders to know what we can do to make BBT better. So, post what ideas you have and we can see what can be accomplished to improve things.
I, for one, don't like all the other activity going on at the park. Airplanes, baseball, picnics, etc. I understand that next year is already booked at Lady Bird, I just hope in future years that the event moves farther south.
On another note, I am of the opinion that we need to have more planned group rides led by some of the more familiar riders with the area. We have a larger number of new folks, and I think it is neat to know that when they get there, they are not just sent out into the unknown areas. There is lots of history and neat, off-the-beaten path spots that can only be seen if someone knows where to take you.
So, come on, let's get those ideas out there!
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I thought the park was a very nice place. For those of us camping, the restroom facilities were very nice, and the area we were able to camp in beside the RV's was beautiful.
I would have enjoyed having the games this year. Saturday is the best attendance day but for those who just come in for that one day, they probably would prefer to go ride then play games.
It seems that more could have gone on Saturday night...something to cause more interaction between the "areas".
All in all I really enjoyed it. I think you guys did a good job of setting this up. I appreciate it.
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I thought the park was a very nice place. For those of us camping, the restroom facilities were very nice, and the area we were able to camp in beside the RV's was beautiful.
I would have enjoyed having the games this year. Saturday is the best attendance day but for those who just come in for that one day, they probably would prefer to go ride then play games.
It seems that more could have gone on Saturday night...something to cause more interaction between the "areas".
All in all I really enjoyed it. I think you guys did a good job of setting this up. I appreciate it.
I figured Gumbo would have fixed that! :popcorn:
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I have nothing to add, how could you possible improve perfection :notworthy: :popcorn: :c :violin: :pot:
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What's a campsite without camp fires!? Sorry I know I mentioned this Saturday night sitting around the tents .... in the dark! But that's the only thing I missed and would otherwise want. I was surprised the sites were missing fire rings.
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What's a campsite without camp fires!? Sorry I know I mentioned this Saturday night sitting around the tents .... in the dark! But that's the only thing I missed and would otherwise want. I was surprised the sites were missing fire rings.
I agree a camp fire is so nice to sit around...but can you imagine having one with the winds we were experiencing? Plus where we were camping was not actually camping sites from what I understand. The camp sites were up the hill..the park just extended a special favor to us as a group so we could all be closer together.
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I have nothing to add, how could you possible improve perfection :notworthy: :popcorn: :c :violin: :pot:
Yes, you and Pete both made the BBT what it was with your presence. ::) ::) ::) ::)
I have both of your shirts as well, so I guess you'll have to actually come out for a M&G if you ever want to see it. :t
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I have nothing to add, how could you possible improve perfection :notworthy: :popcorn: :c :violin: :pot:
Yes, you and Pete both made the BBT what it was with your presence. ::) ::) ::) ::)
I have both of your shirts as well, so I guess you'll have to actually come out for a M&G if you ever want to see it. :t
I beleive my mailing address is on my check i sent, and the form i filled out.
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I'm pulling rank and demand your attendance.
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Being this was my first...
I enjoyed the "Fun Run" Sat. afternoon...thru the county roads, across the cattle guards, running of the calves, getting lost (just me) etc.
The Bike show was cool. O0 I enjoyed seeing everyones own ideas put into their machines. Games would be fun late Saturday evening (6ish) :cool2:
Then eat afterwards; everyone could maybe get a donation(s) from bike vendors or eateries for door prizes during/after the bike show presentation.
I think a planned ride or two would also be nice. :bikerider:
I just have to get there earlier for the overnighter to enjoy the jello creations. :c
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Being this was my first...
I enjoyed the "Fun Run" Sat. afternoon...thru the county roads, across the cattle guards, running of the calves, getting lost (just me) etc.
The Bike show was cool. O0 I enjoyed seeing everyones own ideas put into their machines. Games would be fun late Saturday evening (6ish) :cool2:
Then eat afterwards; everyone could maybe get a donation(s) from bike vendors or eateries for door prizes during/after the bike show presentation.
I think a planned ride or two would also be nice. :bikerider:
I just have to get there earlier for the overnighter to enjoy the jello creations. :c
WE USE TO HAVE LOTS OF DOOR PRIZES BUT THE VENDORS ARE NOT AS GENEROUS AS THEY USE TO BE. I USE TO BE ABLE TO PERSUADE THEM INTO LOTS OF STUFF WHEN I SHOWED UP IN UNIFORM, LIKE I DID FOR LONE STAR 2007 AND BBT 5. THEY SAID THEY TRUSTED THAT I WAS JUST NOT GETTING STUFF FOR MYSELF, I GUESS THEY RAN INTO A PROBLEM WITH TOO MANY REQUESTS, ETC. A COUPLE OF HONDA SHOPS AROUND HERE SAID THEY HAVE WAY TOO MANY GROUPS NOW ASKING FOR DOOR PRIZES. I AM WORKING ON HONDA SUZUKI NORTH IN FARMERS BRANCH, TX AND DFW HONDA IN GRAPEVINE, TX TO HOOK US UP WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR NEXT YEAR. WE'LL SEE!
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Being this was my first...
I enjoyed the "Fun Run" Sat. afternoon...thru the county roads, across the cattle guards, running of the calves, getting lost (just me) etc.
The Bike show was cool. O0 I enjoyed seeing everyones own ideas put into their machines. Games would be fun late Saturday evening (6ish) :cool2:
Then eat afterwards; everyone could maybe get a donation(s) from bike vendors or eateries for door prizes during/after the bike show presentation.
I think a planned ride or two would also be nice. :bikerider:
I just have to get there earlier for the overnighter to enjoy the jello creations. :c
WE USE TO HAVE LOTS OF DOOR PRIZES BUT THE VENDORS ARE NOT AS GENEROUS AS THEY USE TO BE. I USE TO BE ABLE TO PERSUADE THEM INTO LOTS OF STUFF WHEN I SHOWED UP IN UNIFORM, LIKE I DID FOR LONE STAR 2007 AND BBT 5. THEY SAID THEY TRUSTED THAT I WAS JUST NOT GETTING STUFF FOR MYSELF, I GUESS THEY RAN INTO A PROBLEM WITH TOO MANY REQUESTS, ETC. A COUPLE OF HONDA SHOPS AROUND HERE SAID THEY HAVE WAY TOO MANY GROUPS NOW ASKING FOR DOOR PRIZES. I AM WORKING ON HONDA SUZUKI NORTH IN FARMERS BRANCH, TX AND DFW HONDA IN GRAPEVINE, TX TO HOOK US UP WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR NEXT YEAR. WE'LL SEE!
JFWIW, I spoke with Hookem earlier, and he told me there was NO prize giveaway this year. I find it odd the NOBODY contacted me, Pepsx, Badx, RobT, Xcessories, etc, etc. All of us have been past contributors. Sounds to me like all the "organization" has caused y'all to drop the ball.
Edited by j1mmyj4m so we can read your comment without it being tied up in the quote.
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This year being our first of hopefully many years to attend overall I had a blast. Bike games would be fun while we were just hanging aound the pavillion.
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Had a really good time meeting others - great bunch.
Only thing I could add would be what Hookem says about rides being organized and lead by someone familiar to the area. I think we all had a good time, but it would also aid in breaking out of normal groups and mixing a bit. ;D
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i would like to have the next BBT in BIG BEND all in favor say "SI"
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Bike games would of been good sat night. As far as group rides go i would of passed on it, i had every intention of doing the sisters at my speed, :bikerider: i didn't even wait for my brother an his clan i just meet them at the end of each road. Gave me and the misses time for a smoke while we waited. :stickpoke: Sat was the only time we had to do them. That being said maybe group rides on fri would of worked. Anyway enough rambling on my part, as you were carry on. :pot:
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Instead of BBQ, have Gumbo cook up some Cajun Roadkill ! All seriousness, Had a grat time despite the windy conditions, bike games mite have been interesting with 40mph gusts. As far a campfires, that whole area has been drought stricken for sometime and under Burn ban restrictions. Don't know if it would be practical but having it in Bandera might be interesting. Access ti the threes plus the ride to Utopia. And there is a RV park within walking distance of the Honky Tonks.
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I have always like the guided rides for which if i was to go myself I would end up in Mexico!! As far as the door prizes I can myself pick up things from this area thoughout the year and would add to the excitement!! :thumbup:
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I got to thinking.........
Since I didn't go I guess I need to keep my mouth shut............. :bikerider:
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I totally disagree. Another option is, if you did not come to bbt, was it due to past experiences at bbt. Or, based on your past visit(s) to bbt, what suggestions would you make to improve the next one. Remember, this group exists because of the people that make up the group. The leadership of tx x riders is charged with growing the group. Part of growth is retaining the members we have and providing opportunities for the group.
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I got to thinking.........
Since I didn't go I guess I need to keep my mouth shut............. :bikerider:
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I totally disagree. Another option is, if you did not come to bbt, was it due to past experiences at bbt. Or, based on your past visit(s) to bbt, what suggestions would you make to improve the next one. Remember, this group exists because of the people that make up the group. The leadership of tx x riders is charged with growing the group. Part of growth is retaining the members we have and providing opportunities for the group.
did you just read that off "the teleprompter" ??
"what you need to do....."
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I got to thinking.........
Since I didn't go I guess I need to keep my mouth shut............. :bikerider:
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I totally disagree. Another option is, if you did not come to bbt, was it due to past experiences at bbt. Or, based on your past visit(s) to bbt, what suggestions would you make to improve the next one. Remember, this group exists because of the people that make up the group. The leadership of tx x riders is charged with growing the group. Part of growth is retaining the members we have and providing opportunities for the group.
100% agree with hookem...keep speaking your mind girl.
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I got to thinking.........
Since I didn't go I guess I need to keep my mouth shut............. :bikerider:
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I totally disagree. Another option is, if you did not come to bbt, was it due to past experiences at bbt. Or, based on your past visit(s) to bbt, what suggestions would you make to improve the next one. Remember, this group exists because of the people that make up the group. The leadership of tx x riders is charged with growing the group. Part of growth is retaining the members we have and providing opportunities for the group.
did you just read that off "the teleprompter" ??
"what you need to do....."
Nope. Straight from the by-laws of TXRA.
TEXAS X RIDERS ASSOCIATION BY LAWS
ARTICLE I
INTRODUCTION AND PURPOSE
The primary purpose of the Texas X Riders Association (TXRA) shall always be the promotion of opportunities to ride and for its members to build fellowship.
The function of this organization is to promote the VTX motorcycle in a positive light, to serve as a forum to share information between members, to work to obtain benefits for members, organize and promote rides, rallies, technical help sessions, bike nights, and to assist members in all aspects of the VTX motorcycle.
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Just to help with reading this, when you guys/gals are quoting, make sure you scroll all the way to the bottom of the reply box. Everyone is inserting their replies inside the previous quote.
You do not want a [/quote] sitting below your reply. :c
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There were a couple of ticket drawings before the $. Also, I just mentioned the door thingy as a possibility. Who doesn't like to rec. free stuff, even if it is something you really do not want; you then can trade with someone else.
If many of us were able to pick-up one item; there would be numerous freebies!
Some of you need to relax :banghead: and not get your panites in a wad; :pot: and quit taking this stuff so :stickpoke: personal. Crap! :cuss:
IF I READ CORRECTLY; ??? HE ASKED FOR SUGGESTIONS / IDEAS / THOUGHTS REGARDING THE 2009 BBT :bikerider: :couch: :boxing: :popcorn:
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There were a couple of ticket drawings before the $. Also, I just mentioned the door thingy as a possibility. Who doesn't like to rec. free stuff, even if it is something you really do not want; you then can trade with someone else.
If many of us were able to pick-up one item; there would be numerous freebies!
Some of you need to relax :banghead: and not get your panites in a wad; :pot: and quit taking this stuff so :stickpoke: personal. Crap! :cuss:
IF I READ CORRECTLY; ??? HE ASKED FOR SUGGESTIONS / IDEAS / THOUGHTS REGARDING THE 2009 BBT :bikerider: :couch: :boxing: :popcorn:
I don't see where anyone's getting their panties in a wad.
There used to be so many door prizes that everyone went home with a couple items.
There also used to be planned rides with maps, and at least two groups (fast and slow) running each ride.
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There were a couple of ticket drawings before the $. Also, I just mentioned the door thingy as a possibility. Who doesn't like to rec. free stuff, even if it is something you really do not want; you then can trade with someone else.
If many of us were able to pick-up one item; there would be numerous freebies!
Some of you need to relax :banghead: and not get your panites in a wad; :pot: and quit taking this stuff so :stickpoke: personal. Crap! :cuss:
IF I READ CORRECTLY; ??? HE ASKED FOR SUGGESTIONS / IDEAS / THOUGHTS REGARDING THE 2009 BBT :bikerider: :couch: :boxing: :popcorn:
I don't see where anyone's getting their panties in a wad.
There used to be so many door prizes that everyone went home with a couple items.
There also used to be planned rides with maps, and at least two groups (fast and slow) running each ride.
OK, this year we had 2 door prizes. Thanks to Pete for donating a 1300 A/F screw. His donating that made me realize that we had no true door prizes which is why I donated some chrome work. So, our only 2 give-aways were from our very own members. Yes, times are a bit tougher than the past few years, but dealers are still selling bikes and vendors are still selling parts. God knows, everywhere we went on rides, stores were sure still selling t-shirts. $25 t-shirts that cost them maybe $10, at that. Let's just be honest here. We had no door prizes donated to us because we did not ask for any. Are we supposed to believe that the very dealers who sold us all our X's, H/D's, Wing's, and the accessories that we have all added could not care less about keeping their names in front of us? As another option, perhaps spending $500 for the pavilion is too much. We could have our dinner at a local restaurant in the Kerrville area perhaps with each member responsible for their own meal. Then, we could use the pavilion money to purchase door prizes or add to the 50/50. O0
Also, as for planned rides, I volunteer to lead a planned ride each day next year, beginning on Thursday. I will put these together and will let the group each day determine the pace of the ride depending on majority experience level. These will be scenic rides with some history thrown in. One of the days will be long, as we will ride all of the Sisters.
On Friday night, perhaps a group could get together for a good ol' cookout. Of course, we would have to be somewhere that had grills near the campsite. Everyone participating could kick-in some money toward groceries and assist in the preparation. :lunch: :c
Get the idea now? Ideas, suggestions, improvements. Let 'em fly! :bikerider:
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Are we supposed to believe that the very dealers who sold us all our X's, H/D's, Wing's, and the accessories that we have all added could not care less about keeping their names in front of us?
Unfortunately, that is the case. Dealers are not making the money that they were so they are holding back a lot. None of us were able to get the giveaways that we've had in the past from dealers.
As for everyone else which includes our members, it is true that we did not ask and that was an oversight on our part.
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Come on...
This is not about who donated what, who did not ask for what, who used there own money, how many we did not have, or our Texas X Riders Assoc. By-Laws.
We were all asked a simple question: "Give your thoughts ??? or ideas about this year and any ideas for next year (2010)."
Obviously, your panties did move up like "Injun Underwear...creepin-up'" :t
I am having so much fun!!
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Come on...
This is not about who donated what, who did not ask for what, who used there own money, how many we did not have, or our Texas X Riders Assoc. By-Laws.
We were all asked a simple question: "Give your thoughts ??? or ideas about this year and any ideas for next year (2010)."
Obviously, your panties did move up like "Injun Underwear...creepin-up'" :t
I am having so much fun!!
Again, I don't see where anyone has their panties in a wad. I just see folks offering suggestions on what may work, and posible reasons why some things did not work.
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Dang she's on Fire! :violin:
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OK, but I am not sure about the :angel:
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Pass that Popcorn.............. :bikerider:
you can have the whole bag sister!!!
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I suggest that next year everybody drink more liquor! :c :c :c :c :c :c Instead of Bar B Q, we have an open bar! wohoo bring on the band!
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There are so many members that if everyone dropped a dollar in the hat there would be enough to buy some give aways.
I will volunteer to collect the money and buy things through out the year. Just send a dollar in an envelope to my PO Box. Email me and I will reply with my address.
Do we have any copies of the Ride Maps RD made for the previous BBT's........
I've still got 'em Marigold. I'll find the old link and send it to you when I get home in the morning.
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just a long time member here that wants to set a couple of things straight. all of the previous years ride maps were available at the check-in desk. there was in fact 1 guided ride and a sign up sheet located on the sign in desk. I know this because I led the ride. The ride I led included some new roads and some from the previous years, this map was also available. I originally asked for only to guide 12 due to the nature of some of the roads but in the end took 16. as far as donations, i checked with both dealearships in my area that i recieved donations from last year and was given the same answer. too many people asking for too many handouts and of course "THE ECONOMY" blah, blah, blah!
I find it odd that some folks on here say that no one asked them for donations. as long time members why not just offer up what it is you have to offer, this thing has only been planned for a year! i was not in a position this year to offer anything other than my time, so thats what i did. the other thing i find troubling as well is you get on here and criticize an event and how it was handled and don't even show up, now thats class. IMO, you can keep your donations if the attitude comes with them.
I'am glad hookem started this though. My main suggestion for this event would be to have more involvment from all board members. It seemed vividly clear that some did ALOT more than others. Then get more members involved in the planning and set up of the event. more planned rides, games, prizes are all good ideas. I think more input by the entire "X" community in the planning would be very beneficial in the overall outcome of the event.
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Getting feedback is acceptable and is welcomed to help form future events. But it is not acceptable for those that didn’t attend to speak up and complain when they didn’t attend. It is also not acceptable to make statements that are not true. Everyone knows when the event occurs but no one steps up to offer to put the event on or to help during the event. So to set the record straight…
Ride maps were there, I have last year’s maps. Brock scanned them and I stood at HEB for 1 ½ hours photo copying them.
Yes there was a schedule ride, Crewsn put the ride together and he and I spent many hours trying to build the map similar to past years. I downloaded software, which took over 2 hours and rebuilt the map. All of these including a preview of the ride stops were taped to the registration table so that the stops were not duplicated.
I am the one that received all the registration forms, and drove to the bank to cash them. I am the one that put the order together so that Paperpeddler could print shirts and pins.
As far as the pin design goes, we looked at two members design and chose the one with the lower cost in order to keep our registration fee to a minimum.
The BBQ dinner, I am the one that reserved this. Ensured the right amount of food was ordered, delivered, served, and paid for.
The park and the Pavilion, I am the one that organized the facility, coordinated the monies and paid the park.
Donations, several members attempted to get them and everyone’s attempt was turned down. You all that are speaking up to say you were not asked is bullshit, you should have volunteered…RocknRoll, VTX Chad and Hookem did.
All I can say is, I am glad this is my last year and hope the next lucky soul gets as much support as I did.
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I just want to thank everyone who did contribute, no doubt the best was done with what you had to work with. This was my first and was not displeased in any way.
This thread is getting off track and going downhill fast, lets get back on track with suggestions for next year :c I know for sure the people I had contact with were bigger than all this. :banghead:
I would like to suggest maybe having crawfish boil - the time of year is right and I can't think of a better way to have a social meal. Peel, drink and eat, talk, peel, drink and eat. All we need is a somewhat accurate head count and I will haul up as many as we need. :c :c
I can also cook a butt load of Gumbo, I can cook big :pot: All I ask is that on your way up pick up anything and I mean anything that is on the road and not stiff. :pot:
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Getting feedback is acceptable and is welcomed to help form future events. But it is not acceptable for those that didn’t attend to speak up and complain when they didn’t attend. It is also not acceptable to make statements that are not true. Everyone knows when the event occurs but no one steps up to offer to put the event on or to help during the event. So to set the record straight…
Ride maps were there, I have last year’s maps. Brock scanned them and I stood at HEB for 1 ½ hours photo copying them.
Yes there was a schedule ride, Crewsn put the ride together and he and I spent many hours trying to build the map similar to past years. I downloaded software, which took over 2 hours and rebuilt the map. All of these including a preview of the ride stops were taped to the registration table so that the stops were not duplicated.
I am the one that received all the registration forms, and drove to the bank to cash them. I am the one that put the order together so that Paperpeddler could print shirts and pins.
As far as the pin design goes, we looked at two members design and chose the one with the lower cost in order to keep our registration fee to a minimum.
The BBQ dinner, I am the one that reserved this. Ensured the right amount of food was ordered, delivered, served, and paid for.
The park and the Pavilion, I am the one that organized the facility, coordinated the monies and paid the park.
Donations, several members attempted to get them and everyone’s attempt was turned down. You all that are speaking up to say you were not asked is bullshit, you should have volunteered…RocknRoll, VTX Chad and Hookem did.
All I can say is, I am glad this is my last year and hope the next lucky soul gets as much support as I did.
Even though Jim and I didn't go we want to tell you THANK YOU for all of your hard work.....................
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HOLD ON JUST ONE MINUTE.....
That 1300 a/f screw was mine... >:D...darn it, Pete!?! Just kidding...trying to lighten it up in here a little. :thumbup:
Unfortunately, I've missed the last two years, but at the LSR in '07 I donated some new stuff that I just had laying around in the garage. The point is that all of us can bring something as a donation...we don't necessarily need to just rely on vendors. Shoot, we have a whole year now to plan the next one, so maybe we can all buy something during the year and use it as a donation for BBT '10!! It doesn't have to be something expensive...whoever "wins" it will appreciate it just the same. Just an idea...
And if I'm there next year, I plan on leading a ride for only the 1300 riders. It's called the "Catch Me If You Can" ride! If someone catches me, I'll give them Steve's bike. ;D
Steve...ain't nothin' to worry about! 8)
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It is correct about the vendors tightening up. They all turned me down in the metroplex. I had cruisercustomizing.com tell me they would donate stuff and then back out at the last minute. We actually got into an arguement on the phone after I told them how much money I have spent on their website, not to mention everyone else on a VTX.
Props to Geri for always organizing a good BBT.
We had a great time and did more riding this year than we ever had before and it was because the maps were available. The three sisters we did on our own and it was well worth it.
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This was my first BBT and I had no idea what to expect (beyond drinking and carousing). :angel:
It won't be my last BBT by the way. My only suggestion is to get someone with more "mojo" on the board to help with the weather. :pot:
But we did get to :bikerider: and that's all we needed.
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Sorry, couldn't help myself! :t
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Can we please FOCUS here folks?
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I just want to say that my wife and I had an awesome time. This was my first BBT to attend and i wasn't expecting anything, but having a good time and that's what I did. Look guys, every time someone has something to say and they try to compare to other things, well, IMHO, take it as it is. We all know, that we are going to th is BBT to ride our beloved's on roads that we typcially don't get to ride on a regular basis, (most of us), and to meet up with other people and put faces with names. What ever little effort that some may think was put together by the board, on my part is greatly appreciated and not forgotten. As far as I'm concerned, I'm away from work, not thinking about the stresses of life, I'm for sure not going to stress on what could have been done or not done at a place like this. a BIG BIG Thanks to all those that helped put this event together and CREWSN, thanks for leading us on some beuatiful roads. In the words of the famous Jerry Reed and as it says to the left, "Just put that hammer down and give it hell."
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OH, and re-focusing on this post, I guess I would like to see the biker games. that seems fun. :stickpoke:
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In the words of the famous Jerry Reed and as it says to the left, "Just put that hammer down and give it hell."
I thought you were referring to J.R.R. Tolkien.... :laugh:
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In the words of the famous Jerry Reed and as it says to the left, "Just put that hammer down and give it hell."
I thought you were referring to J.R.R. Tolkien.... :laugh:
Oh yeah, "You shall not pass............. that hammer and give it hell" sorry about that. :stickpoke:
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I think some people are blowing this out of proportion... this events are supposed to be about hanging out with friends and riding the hill country... I wanted to go but could not make it... Maybe next year... Is hard to put events of this nature when you have all kind of people involved... There will always be someone bitching about something... Hell Lone_wolfe Buck Rogers about the wind at night and no camp fire!!!! :t
My only advice is to keep it simple!!!!!
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this thread confirms to me that i made the right choice.
wheres the love?
I didnt go, but i paid for the event just in case i could possible go at the last minute
I wasnt ask to donate no matter what anyone says. and now am told that i shouldnt have to be ask, i should just donate anyway? does that go for all the other 50 state VTX meets as well, Ill just start sending out stuff right away.
now im told that if i didnt attend, STFU about next year....
if you want some good ideas on how to throw a friendly, fun lovin, get together....attend the VA Bulldogs party.
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Good lawd.
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Well - I didn't go but I do appreciate the work that went into this thing. I also appreciate those that did attend just to have a good time. This soiree' would not happen if it wasn't for the workers or the attendees. One can't live without the other making it a symbiotic relationship, not a parasitic one!! Hopefully no one went just for the door prizes. Door prizes are just lagniappe as we say in Louisiana!
Suggestions:
1. Prez appoint Committee Chairs for
A. Ride selection and mapping, sight seeing, winery locations, other points of interests
B. Food/Entertainment - This includes the "MeetnGreet" stuff separate from the group BBQ. (At least one board member on committee since $$ involved)
2. No Guided rides - only Self-Guided - Each attendee or group do their own thing at their own pace (Eliminates liability to group leaders)
Many attendees don't know all there is to see and do in the Hill Country. There are bat caves, twisties, museums, winerys, beer joints, orchards, wild flowers, lavender farms, music, shopping, rivers, fishing, swimming, canoeing, tubing. As folks come each year, they can do something different each time or repeat something they loved on a previous BBT. For instance, if you haven't seen 750,000 bats roar out of a cave at dawn or dusk, you have missed something. If you haven't eaten fresh peach ice cream - well you missed something. If you haven't quaffed a couple of truly ice cold beers at Arkie Blues, or seen the Devil's Sinkhole, or Stonehenge - you missed something. Ride the humps and twisties outside of Luckenbach and you won't need to ride a rollercoaster for a while.
Those that know me know I am an anti-organizer. I believe biking is about freedom FROM structure! Hence my suggestions.
Take 'em or leave 'em!
Ride Long and Prosper!!
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I like your happy faces better!!!! (they need to make some WT happy faces)
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WT smiley!!!
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Calf-rope!
hookem asked ???, many suggested :hmm: & others whined :blahblah:!
It is so much fun to stir the pot! :pot:
It is time to go ride :bikerider: and pop-a-top. :c
Thanks to all that had a hand in organizing the BBT. It wa a pleasure to make new friends, put a face with a name/handle and ride the roads. Looking forward to next year. Peace Out! O0
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how about a general Tech session? Big congrats to the organizers of BBTVI. The first time I met the Texas X riders was by crashing BBT IV (4) in Luckenbach. The've all been fun and can't wait till BBTVII. I think I'm supposed to say " Smell the Bumper " :bikerider:
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I think I'm supposed to say " Smell the Bumper " :bikerider:
now that was funny... :rofl:
My only suggestion would be to have someone go early and take down those temporary red lights on Highway 39. :good:
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Just so you all know...
...pepsX wears panties! :popcorn: Steve told me so! :ohwow:
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Hey, I've been to Fredericksburg about 10 times now on and off the bike and still find new stuff to do everytime I am there. I'm with some of the others on this: rode down, hung out with friends, rode Friday and all day Saturday to the three sisters, drank, ate, and had a blast, and rode home, even in the rain. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE RIDING AND BEING WITH FRIENDS AND NOT THINKING ABOUT THE WORLD WE LIVE AND STRESS IN! THAT'S WHAT HAVING A BIKE IS ALL ABOUT!!!
See ya'll again next year and see all my local DFW X-RIDERS at the next M&G. Jennifer wants to see Loose Wheels and Muenster....I'll post it up soon when the weather clears.
-Iceman
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A general tech session would be awesome. :bikerider: :cool2:
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Just so you all know...
...pepsX wears panties! :popcorn: Steve told me so! :ohwow:
Now, I don't care who you are...
...that thar is funny!!! :rofl:
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I want to say, from the bottom of my heart, thank you to the BOD (especially Geri and Randy) for one helluva good time. Your HARD WORK is very much appreciated. Although I could only attend Saturday night thru Sunday morning, I had an absolute BLAST. And to those who acted like a board member (Jeremy) thank you too for all of your hard work with the ride, serving the BBQ, and making margaritas. Jay, Geri, and Randy.... your hospitality is unmatched and is NOT unnoticed by us members. That I can promise!! (and by the way, if you have never heard, randy can SING!!!! He's coming on stage with us next year and belting out a set. Yes, I am DONATING my band for next years BBT....)
Also, a huge THANK YOU goes out to Jeremy's wife Jennifer and my little sister, Kristina, who took the time and missed rides to set up the dinner, clean up afterwards, and sell almost $400 in the 50/50 ticket game. Of that amount, 1/2 belongs to us, which will help with the cost of next years BBT. Randy's wife Vanessa was definitely in the mix as well...She went above and beyond to make this year's BBT memorable. All three of them could have sat around and did nothing, as none of them really had any responsibility to help out, but they did.... so THANK YOU!!! Last but not least, THANK YOU to RocknRoll, VTX Chad and Hookem, who donated for DOOR PRIZES. It is much appreciated! And in this economy, most welcomed!
And most importantly, I would like to apologize to the people who worked sooooooo hard to make this a fun event for us who all share the love for Honda VTX's for the way this thread has turned out. I think Hook'em had a GREAT idea posting this, then it took a horrible turn. Opening an area for suggestions is the way to go, if----and ONLY if---- people can act maturely and give feedback constructively. There is no reason to start ragging on people for no door prizes, saying people "dropped the ball".... BS like that helps NO ONE and only causes animosity in an already UNSTABLE board (not unstable as in how the computer side runs, Brock.... That seems to be back at 100% uptime!!! Thanks!). And yes, I think EVERYONE has the right to post here, even if you did not attend. You are a family member and your feedback is welcome. Again, as long EVERYONE acts with class, feedback is a good thing...
So there wasn't as much free door prizes. Why can't it be said like " I wish we could have had more door prizes.... What can I do to help next year?" instead of just b****ing about it? Why not say, "I wish we had more organized rides..... Can I plan one for next year?, instead of simply saying there was not one (although there was one)? (by the way, some of the posts about rides were done in a respectful manner, and for that, I thank you. This is not a blanket statement about all of the RIDE comments....Also, some presented the door prize comments respectfully.. The statement about door prize comments is NOT a blanket statement as well. For those who did it properly.... THANK YOU!)) And in case you were wondering, yes, I am qualified to speak on donations. Last year, I donated my band for the dinner, which is a $750 value.... I couldn't do it this year (although the BOD TRIED to get us, and ASKED US numerous times), because I could not afford to pay the rest of my band out of my pocket to come this year..... Geri tried to come up with enough for us, but it just wasn't in the budget. I am in a new band that is considerably better than the one I was in last year, and they now ask for good money to play. I even offered my band $200 out of my own pocket, but it was just not feasable. It will be next year, as they all have already agree to play (for free.... they just needed more notice than I could give them this year, as I joined 8 weeks before BBT)!!
Feedback like Demon said " Let's have it in Big Bend, Who's in favor?".... THAT is the way this should be done. Kudos to you...
"Games would be fun on Saturday evening." by Beaux43, VTXChad, Lucky, and TinMan.... THATS the way it should be done. Kudos to you too...
" Instead of BBQ, have Gumbo cook up some Cajun Roadkill".... Helluva good idea presented RESPECTFULLY by xcalibur and Gumbo. Nice!
I know I left a lot of GOOD feedback out, but you get the idea.
For this thread to turn into a crucifixion is uncalled for. How would all of us feel if we spent months planning and have ( A FEW) of us do nothing but complain that we didn't win a damn door prize, wasn't asked to donate, or didn't know an exact time or route for a ride? I, personally, am a bit ashamed about some of these responses to this thread. I just want everyone to know how much I APPRECIATE the work you guys did, all the while still living your life in the real world.
If you said something disrespectful on this thread, I hope you find it in your character to at least PM the people you offended to discuss it. Hell, it's not hard. I mis-spoke in a Harley thread a while back, I manned up, apologized publically in my thread for the mix-up to those that I offended, and it was forgotten (at least by the people I give two squirts of piss about).
I hope that we can all SOON get back to what this forum was made for.... a FAMILY of people who love VTX's. If not, I foresee the membership dropping real damn fast and new boards made where all of this drama isn't happening all of the time... I know this to be an absolute 100% undeniable fact, as I have had one of my friends buy a VTX, join the board, read some posts, then tell me that they wanted nothing to do with us because of how we treat each other sometimes. It's a little embarassing at times....
So, in closing, THANK YOU to Geri, Randy, RocknRoll, VTX Chad, Hookem, Jennifer, Vanessa, and Kris (plus those I accidentally left out).... THANK YOU for all that you did. I, for one, appreciate it..
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ditto on what the noob said
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Not bad for a rat computer guy! :t
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:c myself and Dee had a great time and look forward to the next time
we are hangin' with the group again !
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Red dragon I sure hope you passed your test :t it would be shame if you didn't and missed out on BBT - Let's ride together next year, and we have to find a way to get your giant cooking pot there. ;D
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I second what Noob said and make a motion that all negative posts cease. Noob, what you said couldn't be said any better. I think the ones that totally appreciate the job the bod did and has done in the past for the BBT far outnumber those that have a complaint. I rode the guided ride by Jeremy and other than that my rides were from the tent to the pavillion. Visiting and just hangin out was good enough for me.
Thanks to all those that had a part in putting on the BBT. It's not an easy job and seems to be very thankless, but each of you and the job you did are appreciated.
Since this thread was all about suggestions for next year...here's mine
Don't hesitate to ask me or any of the other old timers here to help wherever help is needed. This is all about keeping the X rider group alive and well.
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Red dragon I sure hope you passed your test :t it would be shame if you didn't and missed out on BBT - Let's ride together next year, and we have to find a way to get your giant cooking pot there. ;D
We can get it there even if we have to trailer the pot! :ohwow: :thumbup:
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Sorry, Jeffro..... I'll use a smaller font next time for ya!! :c
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too long, didn't read.
Sorry, Jeffro..... I'll use a smaller font next time for ya!! :c
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Sorry, Jeffro..... I'll use a smaller font next time for ya!! :c
Long, not large... but you may have heard that before... :stickpoke:
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Sorry, Jeffro..... I'll use a smaller font next time for ya!! :c
Long, not large... but you may have heard that before... :stickpoke:
Hey, it might not be long, but it's skinny...
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Sorry, Jeffro..... I'll use a smaller font next time for ya!! :c
Long, not large... but you may have heard that before... :stickpoke:
Hey, it might not be long, but it's skinny...
Talk about off topic! :ohwow: :thumbup:
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Now that's funny... ;D
Thanks Noob!
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too long, didn't read.
Sorry, Jeffro..... I'll use a smaller font next time for ya!! :c
that's funny shi uh stuff :rofl:
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nuther suggestion, everybody CAMP with the group, it's fun watchin' the RV bunch after they get blasted , and watching ISORG and Lone Wolf stomp their tents into submission while breaking camp in the windstorm ( that was a riot) :rofl:. Xrider's don't need no stinking motel !
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nuther suggestion, everybody CAMP with the group, it's fun watchin' the RV bunch after they get blasted , and watching ISORG and Lone Wolf stomp their tents into submission while breaking camp in the windstorm ( that was a riot) :rofl:. Xrider's don't need no stinking motel !
damn tent... damn wind! i got home, and looked at my poles, one is cracked because of the wind :banghead: I wanted a new tent anways.
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nuther suggestion, everybody CAMP with the group, it's fun watchin' the RV bunch after they get blasted , and watching ISORG and Lone Wolf stomp their tents into submission while breaking camp in the windstorm ( that was a riot) :rofl:. Xrider's don't need no stinking motel !
damn tent... damn wind! i got home, and looked at my poles, one is cracked because of the wind :banghead: I wanted a new tent anways.
the wind ,right , stomping it into the duffle didn't hurt it at all :t you can buy new poles and shock cord repair kit. :laugh:
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I realize that I am the odd man out here, but I don't go to the Hill Country to stay in a commercial atmosphere and I don't recall ever having a desire to camp on a landing strip. I'll be positive from here on out.
The facility is supper nice! I thank Brock and the BOD for all the hard work and time away from the fun that they spend arranging, organizing and working the function. Having been somewhat involved in BBT1 and BBT2 I have a little understanding of what it takes. However, bigger is not always better. The organization for 2010 should start now if it hasn't already.
My thoughts:
1. Offer a discount, free shirt, special BBT shirt (whatever) to the first 25 to pre register. Yes, there will always be someone that will not accept that they were #26. Get over it. You can still have additional give away's if they are available. This would help get registration kicked off.
2. I like the idea of of cooking the Saturday meal onsite. The facility is there, make use of it. This was how we started and it was fun. Mr. Gumbo sounds delicious and with the big pit across the street and the covered seating, it's perfect. Everyone hangs out in the kitchen sometime during their day. We have members in the hill country who can locate some mesquite and I can bring a load of oak to keep the fire going from Friday through Sunday. This way even if someone is having a private dinner they could still make use of it and not have to worry about getting a pit to the event. When we did this before, there was never a shortage of people to to watch the pit so everyone gets to ride. We could probably have a feed Friday and Sat. Now volenteers to man a registration table is another story. I personally would rather take a butt whupping. :boxing:
3. This ties to #2. Down the hill from the pit is a perfect camp area. Not sure if the park managment would allow tent camping in that area, but it is the atmosphere that tent campers prefer. Shady and secluded. If not, then they should allow a few tents by the pit or the pavillion so that it can be maintained and guarded in comfort.
4. Accept $$$ donations from members that are willing and want to donate. Any amount. This helps take some of the guess work out of what number of registrations that you must have. This could start right now, the list maintained and recognition given at the event with no amounts mentioned. I've done it or tried to ever year. Any excess $ can always be paid forward. I think this is being done to a certain degree already and I applaud the BOD for this.
5. As for guided rides, take a poll to see how many really need/want this. With all the GPS's I saw on bikes, just a list of points of interest with addresses could easily replace having to guide at all. I personally don't ride in groups over 4 or 5 bikes. I think it's dangerous and pisses people in cages off. Just me. :simmadown:
6. Thanks noob for volenteering entertainment for next year. Can't wait to see Randy on American Idol. Lets have a talent show or some Carry an OKIE. Even if they do roll thier joints all wrong.
Dusty.
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Thanks Dusty Bill.
Your suggestions are great. I for one would be more then glad to donate some money to help out.
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TBIRD and I got out on the bikes for a little dinner and riding last night and spoke about BBT in length.
1) We spoke about pre-registration and how paying in full early you should get the tshirt and pin included.
2) Late or on-site registration should be a smaller amount that does NOT include a tshirt and pin. They can be
sold seperately. No one wants to walk in Saturday and pay the same amount as everyone else and just get
BBQ Saturday night.
3) Donations are a great idea. I think during the year everyone should pass the hat at their meet and greets
and ask for spare change, a couple of dollars here and there. This is what I am going to start doing. I plan
on hitting the guys up for donations a little at a time while we are out on lunch runs, etc. I will put the
money away in my safe in a seperate bag and then send it to whomever is holding the funds when it gets
close to BBT. It's worth seeing how much extra cash we can gather.
4) TBIRD had a good idea. Take some of this donation money and use it to buy some door prizes. And when
buying door prizes, get the vendors to give it to us whole sale and ask for a buy one get one free deal. At
least this way we are buying something in return for them donating something as well.
5) Open up on-site regristration from 10am-12pm only. This would keep someone from having to man the
registration table and not enjoy morning riding, etc. Anyone registering on-site will have already made it in
if they were driving in from somewhere close and if not they probably travelled in the night before anyway.
6) I'm with DUSTY on this one. TBIRD and I even discussed it last night. Five or six bikes is enough in each
group. More than that and it becomes a hassle to pass, be passed, gas up, etc. I think most everyone is
mature enough to get their own group going to to at least ask around and get into someones group.
Especially since when the solo riders might want to be alone to run a little faster than those with spouses or
riders riding. Also the ones with spouses or riders might want to take longer pit stops during the ride.
7) Have fun and lighten up. I think for the most part everyone had a great time. It's about riding and hanging
out. That is what BBT is. It will never be perfect for everyone. I for one had the best time I have ever had
at BBT and it was because of the riding and fellowship with good friends. With our busy day-to-day lives
we do not always get a chance to hang out, drink, and ride. There is always someone working or having to
leave early from our M&G's because of family, work, or just plain needing to get home to organize and catch
up on responsibilities around the house or get ready for work the next day.
My two cents...I'm done.
ALWAYS HAVE FUN AND BE SAFE......
-Iceman
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Well, point #1 has been in place for a while now. All other points are good thoughts though. :thumbup:
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I agree with Dusty. The hill country is too pretty, the roads too twisty, narrow and potholy to make safe riding for large group rides. Also cagers, many who live in the area, probably don't appreciate being hung behind a long line of bikes any more than we like getting hung behind a slow cager on a cell phone.
Brock, what about a Hill Country Site thread that folks can list places to see and things to do in the hill country. No routes yet - we would put those together on a "to/from" basis centering on the park. As previously posted, a couple of places could be Stonehenge, Devil's Sinkhole, Enchanted Rock, Big Trees tour - places like that. I know there are a lot of places I haven't been or want to see that can be listed. Places like the Tunnels, roads like Old #9 and the Humps are very close to the park for a short hop. The Sinkhole is near Rocksprings so would take better part of a day and could include the best of the Sisters.
As for donations, perhaps we could pass the hat at the Tri/Quad city MnG. A buck or two, less than what we probably tip the wait staff, each time would probably surprise us by the time BBT rolls around.
Thank you folks for all the work you do!!
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I agree with Dusty. The hill country is too pretty, the roads too twisty, narrow and potholy to make safe riding for large group rides. Also cagers, many who live in the area, probably don't appreciate being hung behind a long line of bikes any more than we like getting hung behind a slow cager on a cell phone.
Brock, what about a Hill Country Site thread that folks can list places to see and things to do in the hill country. No routes yet - we would put those together on a "to/from" basis centering on the park. As previously posted, a couple of places could be Stonehenge, Devil's Sinkhole, Enchanted Rock, Big Trees tour - places like that. I know there are a lot of places I haven't been or want to see that can be listed. Places like the Tunnels, roads like Old #9 and the Humps are very close to the park for a short hop. The Sinkhole is near Rocksprings so would take better part of a day and could include the best of the Sisters.
As for donations, perhaps we could pass the hat at the Tri/Quad city MnG. A buck or two, less than what we probably tip the wait staff, each time would probably surprise us by the time BBT rolls around.
Thank you folks for all the work you do!!
ROCKNROLL for president!!!!! :notworthy:
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As one that would have loved to make it to BBT6 and didn't, maybe I'm not supposed to post here?? :ohwow: Just kidding all! ;D
There are those who can and do not, those that can and do, and those who think it should have been better without themselves having to do anything. It will always be this way, no matter the group type you have. I wish I coulda' made it, but, I guess next year will have to do. I appreciate the work done to make it happen even though I couldn't make it: it was there if I could have been, that matters! :congrats:
Only one I haven't made, I'm sure it was good . Not knowing what did or didn't go on, I can't gripe about much except one thing... those of you religous people need to pray for rain so we can have a g%dda$m :cuss: Fire!! It's been a long dry spell with no campfire!! :cuss: That sucks! Buck up and pray!! my 2.
Ps. missed seeing all my friends. Can't go too much longer. Guess I'll have to try and make the Aug. Sprung thing! ;D
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Well, point #1 has been in place for a while now. All other points are good thoughts though. :thumbup:
I was thinking more along the lines of an additional different shirt. Just anything to offer an incentive to get money in early. I remember the first rally's where we weren't sure what we were going to be able to do until a few weeks before rally time. Maybe it was just me that didn't know. I do remember I spent arround $300 + - hoping that I would get reimbursed, and I did. As for as I know this situation still happens occasionally.
I guess what my intentions are is to get enough money in the pot, understanding that we are non-profit and can't have a pot, to be able to have one or two functions a year where the funds are there ahead of time. Just trying to figure a way to take some of the uncertainty out of it. If we work hard at it now, who knows, maybe BBTX could be a free event. People just need to understand that what they give is a gift to the xriders. Not dues and not a loan, a gift. I know there is more involved than I'm aware of when you start getting ahead in funds, but if members donated as little as $10 a month occasionally it could build up fast. A BOD member from each region could hold the money, keep a running balance and send it to the organizer of each event at the time it is needed.Then again I guess this could create other problems because there will always be someone that will want to accuse someone of stealing funds or get ticked because one region donated more than another region. Heck I don't know but there has got to be a way without having to organize into an official riding club with dues and all the crap that goes with it, which non of us want. I'll shut up now. :couch:
EXCEPT TO SAY GOOD TO SEE YOU POSTING AGAIN SNAKE!!!!! :thumbup:
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Ditto on the "WELCOME BACK SNAKE!!" I know I'm thread-jacking but it is good to hear from you. How has that busted up shoulder and ribcage doing? You riding anytime soon?
Back to the topic - as a suggestion, perhaps someone can get Gumbo and/or Dusty to voluteer as executive chefs. I have a pretty good jambalaya that makes about 5-10 gallons. Should feed a few of us. We can double it up but I don't have the pots. Also, I seem to recall a couple of others saying they make pretty good something or other. Maybe Kenny can pop a couple of smaller pigs and we can que em up. Sure wish one of us had access to some Axis deer. They are OUTSTANDING on the pit. I think our group has far better cooks then the usual caterers do. That said, cooks require some love, care, and frequent basting with whisky and beer. A sweet kiss or two wouldn't hurt either!! Hooter - you get Gumbo!!
Brock, if or hopefully, when we get some sites, we could start making routes that perhaps you could post like Cliff does for Coloradical. As for copies, if we get some routes ready far enough in advance, I can make copies at work. Not all at one time but - well - uh - well, you know spend some weekend time and get a few reams done at a time. Heck - checking out routes between now and next year would be a ton-o-fun. I'm in!
Ride long and prosper!
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Hey Snake, nice to hear from you. I did not know about the accident until the BBT, get well soon where you can ride again.
Earl
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I think our group has far better cooks then the usual caterers do. That said, cooks require some love, care, and frequent basting with whisky and beer. A sweet kiss or two wouldn't hurt either!! Hooter - you get Gumbo!!
I'm in!
Ride long and prosper!
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Now hold on there RocknRoll, I am all about sending the day cooking :lunch:, in fact nothing I like more other than riding. I like the idea of a sweet kiss or two but Hooter :snapoutofit: That just aint gonna work :boxing:
I had no idea what to expect on this one, but all kidding aside, with a year to work on it, my bet is we could come up with killer eats, I am up for it. :agree:
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When I got to stand around drinking whiskey when Dusty cooked several years ago, I never even missed my bike. I did, however pass out on the hill, spent the night there until a light shower the next morning woke me up. I apparently got quite full of that oak barrel cured corn. I certainly got all my vegetable that night. Don't remember eating Dusty's cooking but there wasn't any left the next morning!! Must have been the ice I was using. That has never happened to me before. :c
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When I got to stand around drinking whiskey when Dusty cooked several years ago, I never even missed my bike. I did, however pass out on the hill, spent the night there until a light shower the next morning woke me up. I apparently got quite full of that oak barrel cured corn. I certainly got all my vegetable that night. Don't remember eating Dusty's cooking but there wasn't any left the next morning!! Must have been the ice I was using. That has never happened to me before. :c
Actually Pete, that was BBTI I believe. Everything was impromptu. German Pete towed the pit down from Dallas which belonged to BDC who couldn't come. And hasn't posted in months now. Tapper and a couple of others seasoned the briskets and Tom and I sat there all day tending the fire and drinking silver bullets. That's before Gay had to tear the stage down. People came by constantly hanging out and shooting the breeze. The following year Tom donated his son's pit and Annette and I cooked the briskets. That's when we made the mistake of allowing people to serve themselves and ran out of brisket. I got the blame for triming too much fat off. AMSMEDIC (JOE, Mr. Camera) was eating out of the scrap bucket accusing me of waisting fat.... uh, I mean meat. :lunch:
Anyway, looks like we are beating a dead horse here. Because there seems like there is not much interest. Perhaps we can do something at THE SPRING THING on a smaller scale. If we have recovered from our trip to Wyoming by then. :c Although August isn't exactly Gumbo and jumbalia weather. Maybe with some ice cold watermellon to chase it with it would work. :c
You gonna be able to ride tomorrow?
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Oh, on the point of the tshirts. TBIRD and I were thinking the official Texas X-Rider design should be on the left breast and then lets design something new on the back every year.
TBIRD suggested an armadillo riding a VTX through a patch of blue bonnets with the blue bonnets flying. Something like that but diffferent every year. I could come up with alot of stuff on this. Hey, an armadillo smelling the bumper...ha!
I'm going to start designing for next year. If it is not accepted I'll have them made like I have done before. I've already got a new VTX shirt designed and will try to get them made in the next few months. Watch for the post!
-Iceman
P.S. Hey Snake..........we missed you this year. Wasn't the same without you! Get well and we'll see you again!
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I personaly think that the rear design on the shirts needs to remain unchanged. Come on guys its our logo. As for the front changing every year, that makes sense.