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[bgreer]

Well, I have always run into different machines having different results. I think the only way is to put everyone on the same machine!

We need another dyno day Johnny 

  Well, considering Johnny's "I'm the greatest, and everyone else sucks attitude" I'll pass....anyway, I buy oil filters by the case

[RedDragon]

Well, I have always run into different machines having different results. I think the only way is to put everyone on the same machine!

We need another dyno day Johnny 

  Well, considering Johnny's "I'm the greatest, and everyone else sucks attitude" I'll pass....anyway, I buy oil filters by the case

Guess I missed something 

[RedDragon]

anyway, I buy oil filters by the case

Dayum, did they tell you you had to change your oil everyday. 

[bgreer]

anyway, I buy oil filters by the case

Dayum, did they tell you you had to change your oil everyday. 

  I was referin to JC's "prizes"....wooohooo oil filters....not

[Crewsn]

  Well, considering Johnny's "I'm the greatest, and everyone else sucks attitude" I'll pass....anyway, I buy oil filters by the case

 

[jmdaniel]

Who's making the popcorn?  Dibs on the La-Z-Boy!

[Crewsn]

Who's making the popcorn?  Dibs on the La-Z-Boy!

 

[johnnycheese]

Well, I have always run into different machines having different results. I think the only way is to put everyone on the same machine!

We need another dyno day Johnny 

  Well, considering Johnny's "I'm the greatest, and everyone else sucks attitude" I'll pass....anyway, I buy oil filters by the case

the oil filters where a joke but are going out Monday
and as I said your gains are real your numbers are not.
and yes I am the best and never said 3rd coast sucked ....you just did

[RedDragon]

anyway, I buy oil filters by the case

Dayum, did they tell you you had to change your oil everyday. 

  I was referin to JC's "prizes"....wooohooo oil filters....not

Ok, well I do not remember Johnny having any attitude about anything, I do remember him asking a few questions about your dyno. When things are a little out of the norm that usually brings up a red flag. Even Snake said that it was a little out of the norm. So if Johnny starts asking questions that gives him an attitude? Yes, he was only offering up oil filters, but you know, when i rode down, winning a $3.00 oil filter was never on my mind. If you pulled your bike in his drive, he would grab your bike and put it on the dyno, dyno it , and then put it back in the parking lot while you sit there and watched. I watched him do this all day, without asking anything from anybody unless you wanted something extra. No one is trying to start anything, but when stock bikes are made, they are generally in the same ball park. Intake and exhaust modifications make a difference, but not 20 hp. And I believe that you can never tell what each bike will do up against another unless you put them on the same machine. Most of the equipment that I use at work has to be calibrated once a year. Anyway, I just stated that doing another dyno would be a good way to check accuracy either way, but I can see why you would not want to.

[Kentagious]

I wonder how this thread would have gone if the numbers were reversed 

[bgreer]

I was talking about you.
The reason I asked what temp it was is due to the correction factor. it is incorrect thus the number are incorrect but the gain is real.
I am seeing this more and more.

 Can you explain that a little better...what does the temp have to do with the correction factor, and how do you know what the correction factor is for his machine

  Johnny not explaining as asked, suggested (at least to me) that he was trying to slam Third Coast Speed. As I explained in an earlier post, I don't know what all the #'s on those sheets mean...except that the AF #'s are close to target as it was explained to me, the torque #'s gained 10 lbs from the first run...and this is what I wanted...1 or 2 HP most riders will never feel...but you feel 10 lbs of torque...This guy ran multiple times and did a good job tuning my bike...end of story...Mike had nothing bad to say about Johnny, only that he knew who he was and that they posted on the same Hybusa Board. I guess I was surprised when Johnny (at least the way I read it) attempted to dis-credit Third Coast Speed...and just for the record, I planned to go to Johnnys on that Saturday, but my bike was not ready (fuel pressure regulator)...I had heard good things about Third Coast Speed, and they were only an hour away,  simply time management and economics...a 6hr ride and an overnight stay, I would have made to be there with a bunch of X riders, but it didn't make sense to do by myself, when Third Coast Speed was right here, and I won 1400.00 gambling on the way back

[skipppy75]

  Only great things to say about Third Coast Speed....this guy is a true pro...we made about 6 runs maybe more, tweaking the #'s each time...

Not dumping on you and I don't know how they dyno, but this statement concearns me.
The way I see it, it seems unusual to make a run and then tweak.
Was the bike tested in multiple RPM ranges and tweaked while in that range to ensure your A/F was good?
I see your A/F info and it looks pretty straight.

I guess I am just trying to figure this whole Dyno thing out and A/F ratio.
I plan on getting a PC3 soon, but was told I could do without one for a while since my bike runs pretty good without it.
I would like to say that seeing RedDragon have his Dyno'd with Johnny sure did help me understand and I hate not understanding.

well good luck to you all and have a good weekend

[bgreer]

  Only great things to say about Third Coast Speed....this guy is a true pro...we made about 6 runs maybe more, tweaking the #'s each time...

Not dumping on you and I don't know how they dyno, but this statement concearns me.
The way I see it, it seems unusual to make a run and then tweak.
Was the bike tested in multiple RPM ranges and tweaked while in that range to ensure your A/F was good?
I see your A/F info and it looks pretty straight.

I guess I am just trying to figure this whole Dyno thing out and A/F ratio.
I plan on getting a PC3 soon, but was told I could do without one for a while since my bike runs pretty good without it.
I would like to say that seeing RedDragon have his Dyno'd with Johnny sure did help me understand and I hate not understanding.

well good luck to you all and have a good weekend

  Hell, I'm more confused now than I was....All I know is my bike runs great, better than before the dyno and tune....I just posted this to help some in the area know of a good shop, and it turned into a pissin match...this boards gettin worse than the OA

[skipppy75]

well it's not that bad

some guy decided I didn't need a seat and took it over me and then others dumping on me and saying they are not inclined to sell
that's a hoot
http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=218932

[bgreer]

well it's not that bad

some guy decided I didn't need a seat and took it over me and then others dumping on me and saying they are not inclined to sell
that's a hoot
http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=218932

  There are some good people here, no doubt, but there are also alot of punks